You know, if the Byzantines hadn't been the feckless twitwiffles that they were, Western Europe would have been happy to come save their feckless arses.
But 300 years of screwing over the Western Christians and often siding with the paynim, yeah, FAFO.
The ghosts and lost souls of Byzantium have only themselves to blame.
The Hagia Sophia needs to be reconsecrated as a Christian church. But short of using Sunshine-in-a-Can, I doubt we'll ever see freedom in increasingly more fundamentalist muslim Turkey.
I think that it's gone, LSP. It's a museum to the superiority of Islam today. To take it back the Christians would need to get back to following Christ and that doesn't seem to be a trend.
It's more than just a museum. It's now a fully operational mosque, against the precepts of Ataturk. Erdogan has much to answer for in his insistence on recreating the caliphate.
LL and Beans, let's never forget that the Church goes to the Cross, time and again, and rises, time and again. After all, she is the Body of Christ and goes where Christ goes. This pattern or model will hold true in England too; whether the pitiful, apostate, dying Church of England will be part of this is another thing altogether.
Perhaps more apropos to the previous post, but how could the UK vote in last month's election for Labor in such numbers? Did too many right thinking people stay home or was the vote split between the fading Conservatives and Farage party? I readily admit I have only vaguest knowledge of how UK politics work...or any parliamentary system for that matter.
DOS, very few voted, making it a kind of victory by default. Point being -- their uniparty inspires about as much enthusiasm as ours. And in both instances, each side of the power aisle is all about mass migration.
You know, if the Byzantines hadn't been the feckless twitwiffles that they were, Western Europe would have been happy to come save their feckless arses.
ReplyDeleteBut 300 years of screwing over the Western Christians and often siding with the paynim, yeah, FAFO.
The ghosts and lost souls of Byzantium have only themselves to blame.
The Hagia Sophia needs to be reconsecrated as a Christian church. But short of using Sunshine-in-a-Can, I doubt we'll ever see freedom in increasingly more fundamentalist muslim Turkey.
Beans, we had the power and very nearly the will to make it happen in WWI. Opportunity missed, eh?
DeleteYes, very missed. Missed during WWII also.
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DeleteI think that it's gone, LSP. It's a museum to the superiority of Islam today. To take it back the Christians would need to get back to following Christ and that doesn't seem to be a trend.
ReplyDeleteIt's more than just a museum. It's now a fully operational mosque, against the precepts of Ataturk. Erdogan has much to answer for in his insistence on recreating the caliphate.
DeleteLL and Beans, let's never forget that the Church goes to the Cross, time and again, and rises, time and again. After all, she is the Body of Christ and goes where Christ goes. This pattern or model will hold true in England too; whether the pitiful, apostate, dying Church of England will be part of this is another thing altogether.
DeletePerhaps more apropos to the previous post, but how could the UK vote in last month's election for Labor in such numbers? Did too many right thinking people stay home or was the vote split between the fading Conservatives and Farage party? I readily admit I have only vaguest knowledge of how UK politics work...or any parliamentary system for that matter.
ReplyDeleteDOS, very few voted, making it a kind of victory by default. Point being -- their uniparty inspires about as much enthusiasm as ours. And in both instances, each side of the power aisle is all about mass migration.
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